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This article features selected Japanese reactions to Episode 7, “Homecoming,” of The Apothecary Diaries, together with English translations. The translations aim to preserve the meaning and tone of the original posts while using terminology consistent with the official English subtitles wherever possible.
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147 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:25:10.51 ID:8c2m5Ww60
毒入れた犯人追及編かと思ったら帰郷したか
かんざしの意味って結婚して後宮を寿退社するってことでいいのかな?
I thought this would be the part where they pursued the poisoner, but instead she went home.
Does the hairpin mean she can marry and leave the rear palace?
148 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:27:21.52 ID:F4kluJnN0
泣けた。李白の代金猫猫が払うのかよ!
That moved me. Maomao is paying for Lihaku’s visit herself?!
149 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:29:35.53 ID:87MRb7Hhd
「お帰り、遅かったね」で済ますオヤジもなかなか人物だなw
Her dad is quite a character too—he just says, “Welcome back. You’re late,” lol.
151 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:31:16.60 ID:8c2m5Ww60
>>149
あれ不自然に思ったけど、後宮にいる間も木簡?の手紙でやり手ババア経由でやりとりしてたから
無事なのは知ってたしああいう反応なのかと思った
>>149
I thought it felt oddly calm, but Maomao had been exchanging letters on wooden slips through the madam while she was in the rear palace.
He already knew she was safe, so that probably explains his reaction.
150 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:31:14.76 ID:F4kluJnN0
いきなり腹パン喰らわすやり手BBAもヤバい
The madam opening with a punch to the stomach is wild.
152 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:33:01.43 ID:zkKsdDTD0
壬氏の脳内で猫猫NTRイベント発生してて草www
いいぞもっと壬氏を追い込め猫猫
Jinshi imagined an entire NTR scenario involving Maomao, lol.
Keep pushing him further, Maomao.
156 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:44:41.00 ID:ZH1OK+s30
10年前のおやじ老けすぎじゃね
https://i.imgur.com/3oywTjL.jpg
Her dad looked way too old even ten years ago.
https://i.imgur.com/3oywTjL.jpg
162 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 02:05:01.42 ID:ci9uPffh0
>>156
大叔父をが養父だからね
猫猫の親父の叔父さんで
猫猫の祖父の弟だよ
実際祖父と孫くらい離れてるんだから
歳が離れているのは仕方ない
>>156
Her adoptive father is her great-uncle—her father’s uncle and her grandfather’s younger brother.
They really are about a grandfather and granddaughter apart in age, so the gap makes sense.
157 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:47:09.17 ID:F4kluJnN0
1話で出てきたのオヤジだったんだ。あまりにも老けてたんで猫猫のじいさんなのかと思ってた
So that was her dad in Episode 1. He looked so old that I thought he was Maomao’s grandfather.
160 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 01:58:24.54 ID:bPm4Ormrd
よくわからんがマオマオは風俗嬢を紹介してやるから身元保証人になれって交渉したのか?
So did Maomao bargain with him by offering an introduction to a courtesan in exchange for acting as her guarantor?
161 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 02:01:48.65 ID:+Fr6j8WJ0
一見さんお断りの高級娼館への案内状用意してやった
She prepared an introduction to a high-class brothel that refuses first-time customers.
166 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 02:50:47.60 ID:R7KUUOFH0
>>161
あと1回目の料金も猫猫が払ってる
1回だけ使ってみようよ、今回はタダでいいよ
って勧誘してくる無許可路上販売のクスリ屋さんみたいな戦法
>>161
Maomao is also paying for his first visit.
It is like an unlicensed street dealer saying, “Try it once—this one’s free.”
164 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 02:18:14.78 ID:JY+5LWQE0
街並みが良すぎる
The city streets looked fantastic.
165 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 02:21:00.41 ID:6sAl3KHW0
唐の時代をモデルにしてるが文化は19世紀くらいの水準らしいから
色々ファンタジー
It is modeled on the Tang dynasty, but the culture is apparently closer to a nineteenth-century level.
It is fantasy in a lot of ways.
169 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:03:50.55 ID:rxqti+ZX0
壬氏をからかう玉葉妃に笑った
頭は切れるのに簪の意味に気付いてない猫猫さんも面白い
Gyokuyou teasing Jinshi made me laugh.
Maomao is sharp, yet it is funny that she still does not understand what the hairpin means.
170 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:04:40.75 ID:b2CSKp1Tr
指紋のくだりはよくわからなかった
てか薬屋の範疇超えてね
I did not really understand the fingerprint part.
Is that not beyond the scope of an apothecary?
172 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:06:25.70 ID:UOREcfrs0
指紋は浮き出る程度で人物特定はまあ無理よ
She could bring out the fingerprints, but identifying individuals from them would be difficult.
173 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:10:29.65 ID:LHeu124A0
指紋で個人判定じゃなくて何人触ったかって話な
まあガンガンなぞってる感じだがテンポが遅く感じてしまうのは先を知ってるからだろう
原作たくさんあるんだしポンポンやっていいんだよという気持ちにもなる
The point was not to identify people by their fingerprints, but to count how many people had touched it.
It follows the Big Gangan version, though the pacing may feel slow because I know what comes next. There is plenty of source material, so part of me wants it to move faster.
174 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:10:43.15 ID:5wtO1UgQ0
ちょっと帰省するだけなのに対価高すぎよな
今さら身売り覚悟してまで帰りたかったのかよっていう
That is an enormous price just to make a short trip home.
Did she really want to return badly enough to risk being sold again?
175 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:12:46.45 ID:LHeu124A0
そうだよ帰りたかったんだ
Yes. She wanted to go home that badly.
177 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:19:04.87 ID:n7HlU9Ge0
器の指紋の下りがわかりづらすぎる
あの器から中身を毒見役の器に移していた、くらいしか説明つかないと思うが
そいつはよそった者か配膳した者かのどちらかってこと?
前回の毒見役の追い詰めといい、この脚本家は説明する気があるのか?
The explanation involving the fingerprints on the bowl was very hard to follow.
The only interpretation I can think of is that the contents were transferred from that bowl into the food taster’s bowl. Was the person who did that the server or the person who delivered it?
Between this and last week’s handling of the food taster, does the script intend to explain any of this?
180 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:29:00.64 ID:mPzZp5v10
>>177
指紋は4人分あった
https://i.imgur.com/f8Tr5Hr.jpg
・スープをよそった者
・配膳した者
・里樹の毒見役(すり替えた者)
・もう一人の誰か(毒を入れた者)
食器の縁(やんごとなきかたの唇が触れる場所)に
触れてはいけないと紅娘から聞いていたので
縁にあった指紋が犯人のものだろうという猫猫の推測
>>177
There were fingerprints from four people:
・the person who poured the soup
・the person who served it
・Lishu’s food taster, who switched it
・one other person, who added the poison
Hongniang had taught Maomao that no one should touch the rim, where a noble lady’s lips would go. Maomao therefore guessed that the print on the rim belonged to the poisoner.
182 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:34:07.09 ID:n7HlU9Ge0
>>180
うん、つまり「触れてはいけない場所の指紋」があったからそれが毒を盛った者ってことだよね
でもそれだと誰の指紋が何人分あったとしても意味なくて、余分な指紋が毒見役のものとはならないんだよ
>>180
Right—because there was a fingerprint on a place that should not be touched, that person is suspected of adding the poison.
But in that case, the total number of fingerprints does not show that the extra set belonged to the food taster.
189 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:58:41.20 ID:R7KUUOFH0
>>182
今週しか観てないなら分からなくても仕方ないが先週に毒見役の侍女が配膳を取り替えたことがほぼ確定しているから
>>182
It may be confusing if you only watched this week, but last week it was almost established that the food taster switched the dishes.
185 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:47:16.88 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
>>180
4個ではなく4人と別人の指紋と断定するから
よーし壬氏が捜査するぞーってパートになるかと思ったら
里帰りとか
おあずけかよ
>>180
Because she said they were prints from four different people, I expected the next part to be Jinshi launching an investigation.
Instead, we get a homecoming. What a cliffhanger.
181 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:32:57.62 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
ええ?今回で犯人逮捕されないんかい!?
なんか解決編なしで次に行ったようでモヤモヤする
What? The culprit is not arrested in this episode?!
It feels unresolved, as if the story moved on without a conclusion.
183 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:38:57.35 ID:yzyAV72b0
自分が拐われて売られた話を帰郷先の親父に笑って聞かせる猫猫も大したモンだなw
笑って相槌うってる親父も親父だが
Maomao casually laughs while telling her father that she was kidnapped and sold. That is impressive in its own way.
And so is the father who just laughs along.
184 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:45:25.46 ID:yzyAV72b0
指紋の件は犯人特定が目当てじゃ無くて、配膳されるまでに関わった人数を
割り出した訳で、その内訳もまだ予想でしかないってことやろ?
器のすり替えに毒味役は状況から確定してると仮定した上で
それ以外の三人を高順(壬氏)のつてで特定出来たら犯人確保に有力なんじゃない?
っていう捜査方針の提案・・・程度の話をやろ?多分
The fingerprints were not meant to identify the culprit directly. They established how many people had handled the bowl, and the roles are still only assumptions.
If the circumstances already establish that the food taster switched the dish, identifying the other three people through Gaoshun and Jinshi’s connections could provide a strong lead. It was more like a proposed direction for the investigation, I think.
187 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 03:51:42.87 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
とりあえず銀の器が反応しているという事で
毒はヒ素で確定なのかな?
つーか食う前に反応見なきゃwww
Since the silver bowl reacted, can we conclude that the poison was arsenic?
Though they should have checked the reaction before tasting it, lol.
190 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:07:47.46 ID:F2gHaz1V0
ようは配膳役などすぐに疑われそうな関係者は白で本当の犯人ば別に誰かがいると言いたい
でないと配膳役や毒味役が真っ先に疑われて冤罪処分されるしその結果真犯人捜査も雑に処理される
あれだけ毒入りの騒ぎがあったら誰かを犯人として吊るし上げをして責任逃れしようとする人が出るだろうし
The point is that the obvious suspects, such as the servers, are probably innocent and that someone else is the real culprit.
Otherwise the server or food taster could be punished as a convenient scapegoat, and the search for the real culprit might be handled carelessly. After such a poisoning incident, someone would surely try to shift blame to avoid responsibility.
191 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:11:04.80 ID:yzyAV72b0
猫猫は多分”意図的”に毒味役のいじめを告発したやろ?
毒を盛った犯人”では無い”と主張する為に
その際貴人いじめに関しては、高順(壬氏)なら多少手を加えてくれる
もしかしたら死罪までは行かないように手を打ってくれる、とまで考えたかは
解らないけど、多少甘えが入ってたんじゃ無いかな
Maomao probably exposed the food taster’s bullying deliberately, in order to argue that she was not the one who added the poison.
She may also have trusted Gaoshun and Jinshi to intervene over the bullying and perhaps prevent the taster from receiving a death sentence.
195 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:27:29.12 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
>>191
わざわざ庇う理由ないやろ
毒味役の命軽いいうても今回取り替えしてなければ命失った毒味役やし
>>191
There was no reason to protect her.
If the taster had not switched the dishes, she herself could have died.
198 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:41:17.43 ID:yaRSeNEi0
>>195
自分と同じ立場の命が軽い毒味役での同情と
自分の不確かな推測のせいで毒味役が死罪になったらとの罪悪感から庇ってる
>>195
Maomao sympathizes because the food taster’s life is considered as expendable as her own. She also does not want an uncertain deduction of hers to get the taster sentenced to death.
192 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:17:54.66 ID:yaRSeNEi0
やんごとなき上級妃に嫌がらせする奴(毒味役)が触れてはいけない場所とか気にして器を持つだろうか?
器の縁の指紋は毒味役の可能性も捨てきれないんだよな
Would someone willing to bully a high-ranking consort really take care not to touch the forbidden part of the bowl?
The fingerprint on the rim could still belong to the food taster.
194 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:24:14.81 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
>>192
そもそも別に器に触れなくても毒は入れられるという
まあこれミステリー的に突っ込んでは行けないかwww
>>192
Technically, the poison could have been added without touching the bowl at all.
Maybe that is not something we are supposed to scrutinize like a formal mystery, lol.
197 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:39:57.92 ID:R9/jTVzr0
>>194
通常は冷めないようにフタしてあるんじゃね
寒い時期だし
>>194
Normally it would have a lid to keep it warm.
It was a cold season, after all.
199 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:42:23.64 ID:Ru3WiwUB0
>>194
器に触らない必然性もないよね
>>194
There is no particular reason the culprit would have avoided touching the bowl, either.
196 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:36:24.77 ID:nLGsBDfv0
前回は暗に警告して済まそうと思ってたけど指紋の話で明かさざるを得なくなった。
って話だゾ。
今回も高順に取りなし頼んで穏便に済まそうとした
Last time, Maomao intended to settle it with an implicit warning, but the fingerprints forced her to reveal what happened.
Even this time, she asked Gaoshun to intercede so the matter could be handled quietly.
200 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:43:19.86 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
>>196
オシロイ塗った侍女はビンタした癖に
なんで毒を盛った犯人は穏便にとするのか?
これが判らない
>>196
She slapped the attendant who kept using the toxic face powder. Why is she trying to handle the poison case quietly?
That is the part I do not understand.
202 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:51:49.29 ID:yaRSeNEi0
>>200
おしろいは毒と忠告したにも関わらず使ってたから猫猫はキレた
毒味役はアレルギーの事を知らなくて嫌がらせで里樹妃が嫌いなもの食べさせただけ
だから警告で済ました
それと猫猫は毒を盛った犯人は毒味役と思ってない
そこの違いだな
>>200
Maomao became angry because the attendant kept using the face powder after being warned it was poisonous.
The food taster did not know about the allergy; she was only trying to bully Lishu by making her eat something she disliked, so Maomao stopped at a warning.
And Maomao does not believe the food taster added the poison. That is the difference.
207 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:01:37.86 ID:dnd4Gn6u0
>>202
今回で服の色とか色々悪意あったて言うのに許してて、よっぽど胸クソ展開やけどな
イジメを穏便に見なかった事にしたらダメだぞw
善意でオシロイ塗ってた侍女の方がまだ救いあるやろ
そもそもオシロイの毒にエビデンス提示したんかと
>>202
This episode showed that the clothing and other actions were malicious, yet they still let it pass. That makes the bullying especially unpleasant.
Bullying should not simply be handled quietly and ignored.
211 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:09:22.38 ID:yaRSeNEi0
>>207
そもそも猫猫はこういう後宮のいざこざには極力関わりたくないけど
壬氏の命令で仕方なく関わってるだけだから
おしろいの件は皇帝から直接梨花妃を診ろ(治せ)と言われたから治さないと猫猫自身の命がかかってたからな
>>207
Maomao wants as little involvement as possible in rear-palace disputes and is only involved because Jinshi ordered her to be.
With the face powder, the Emperor directly ordered her to examine and cure Lihua, so Maomao’s own life depended on succeeding.
204 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:53:54.19 ID:+Fr6j8WJ0
指紋が3人分→狙われたのは玉葉妃
指紋が4人分→狙われたのは里樹妃
まずはこの切り分けをしたんじゃないの
Three people’s fingerprints would suggest Gyokuyou was the target.
Four people’s fingerprints would suggest Lishu was the target.
Maybe that was the first distinction Maomao was trying to make.
205 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 04:57:12.03 ID:eFSQGAq6d
この世界の平均的な娼館のお値段はどのくらいなんだろう?
吉原とかの個室付浴場なら高級店でも2時間6~7万円とかだよね
I wonder what an average brothel costs in this world.
Even a high-end private bathhouse in Yoshiwara might cost around 60,000 to 70,000 yen for two hours.
206 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:00:43.84 ID:+Fr6j8WJ0
猫猫の2ヶ月分の給金で料金の半分になるかならないかって感じだったか
I think two months of Maomao’s wages would cover only about half the price.
209 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:05:55.99 ID:+Fr6j8WJ0
猫猫に許す許さないの権限はないだろう
自分の見聞きした状況証拠を伝えてるだけで
Maomao does not have the authority to forgive or punish anyone.
She is only reporting the circumstantial evidence she witnessed.
218 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:39:54.53 ID:KP4tONJ+0
婆さんのボディーブロー強すぎで草
That old woman’s body blow was unbelievably strong, lol.
219 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:49:07.07 ID:43lb/Md60
猫猫、無茶苦茶出世したなぁ
寝室は段違い!身なりもそれなりに恩恵あると思うのに、そこは拐われた当初と変わらないのね
Maomao has risen tremendously in status.
Her room is on a completely different level, and her clothing must have improved too, yet she herself has not changed since she was kidnapped.
222 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 05:55:52.85 ID:yzyAV72b0
前回は”里樹妃”に配慮したんやないの?
里樹妃にアレルギーの説明する事で毒味役に「お前のやってる事解ってるんやで?」って
追い込みをかけた感じ?
里樹妃に直接「あなたいじめられてますよ」って言わない為に
Was Maomao being considerate toward Lishu last time?
By explaining the allergy in front of her, she was warning the food taster, “I know what you are doing,” without telling Lishu directly that she was being bullied.
225 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 06:05:51.13 ID:F4kluJnN0
紙はチョコ作るときにレシピ書いてましたね
後宮はふんだんに紙使えて贅沢だなあと言ってたので高級品だと思う
She wrote down the chocolate recipe on paper.
Maomao remarked that the rear palace was luxurious enough to use paper freely, so it must be expensive.
227 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 06:12:23.40 ID:GDwWBja10
キャスト表の羅門=猫猫のオヤジなのか
声が家中宏だし皇帝より重要人物じゃ…
So Luomen in the cast list is Maomao’s father.
With Hiroshi Yanaka voicing him, he may be more important than the Emperor…
230 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 07:04:42.44 ID:ZxMZ4SEr0
コナンみたいに2、3話で解決じゃなくて長々とした伏線がかなり先で繋がり一気に回収される展開だからしっかり追っていないと「ん?」てなるかな
Unlike Conan, where a case is solved in two or three episodes, this story lays long-running threads that connect and are resolved much later. If you do not follow closely, you may end up wondering what is happening.
235 風の谷の名無しさん@実況は実況板で
2023/11/19(日) 07:28:48.56 ID:57czPxFG0
お父さんの事が心配だから1年分の給金を支払って里帰りしたのか。良い子だね
She paid a full year’s wages to go home because she was worried about her father. She is a good daughter.
🔚 Overall Impressions
Episode 7 prompted two intertwined conversations: viewers tried to reconstruct Maomao’s fingerprint reasoning while also enjoying the long-awaited return to the pleasure district. The unresolved poisoning left some commenters impatient, but others saw it as another part of the series’ longer mystery structure rather than a self-contained case.
The homecoming scenes drew especially warm reactions. Luomen’s understated welcome, Maomao’s willingness to spend a year’s wages to see him, and the madam’s forceful greeting all showed how unusual—but genuine—Maomao’s family relationships are.
Meanwhile, the hairpin system and Maomao’s bargain with Lihaku created the episode’s biggest comedy. Her total lack of awareness about the romantic implications contrasted with Jinshi’s vivid imagination, while Lihaku immediately understood the value of an introduction to the Verdigris House’s Three Princesses.
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