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This article features selected Japanese reactions to Episode 9, “Suicide or Murder?,” of The Apothecary Diaries, together with English translations. The translations aim to preserve the meaning and tone of the original posts while using terminology consistent with the official English subtitles wherever possible.
引用元：薬屋のひとりごと 11
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879 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 00:55:50.66 ID:iLNvV8Ww0
凄い昔の中華っぽいのに、人工呼吸や心臓マッサージって概念がある。
Although the setting resembles ancient China, they have concepts such as artificial respiration and chest compressions.
891 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:23:07.41 ID:o4CTECIv0
今回は気合の入った描き込みが多かったのにもったいない
It is a shame, because this episode had so many carefully drawn shots.
892 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:24:05.18 ID:SPt1PF0t0
今更宴会の時にロリ妃殺そうとした犯人分かったってこと？
So did they only now figure out who tried to kill the young consort at the banquet?
895 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:26:28.01 ID:1nkl5Is20
>>892
そういうことになるね
だから遅いぞと壬氏が言ってる
>>892
That is what it means.
That is why Jinshi says they took too long.
893 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:24:13.44 ID:S2dUE4e90
話が動きまくり！なんでや阿多妃！？
The story moved forward so much! Why, Lady Ah-Duo?!
894 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:25:26.17 ID:GvQZF3zCr
字幕が間違ってたな…それ違う人だよ……
The subtitles were wrong there… That was a different person.
899 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:30:57.09 ID:qmZANtdu0
実は今まで1話読み切りみたいに見えていた謎や事件が全部伏線でひとりの真犯人につながってりしてw
Maybe all the mysteries and incidents that looked self-contained were actually clues leading to a single culprit, lol.
904 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 01:37:43.21 ID:DU0b025c0
折角の挿入歌が入ってこなかった
I could not concentrate on the insert song after all that.
906 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 02:23:28.89 ID:7cZu3fXh0
>>904
医者一族の中の変わり者（祖父が白い巨塔の財前教授のモデル）の神前暁の渾身の一作なのにｗ
>>904
And it was a passionate piece by Satoru Kosaki—an eccentric from a family of doctors whose grandfather was reportedly the model for Professor Zaizen in The Great White Tower, lol.
907 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 02:34:39.73 ID:NXFUF4N40
結局死んだ下女は自殺だったのか他殺だったのか
やっぱり毒入り事件に関係して口封じされたのかな
In the end, did the palace maid commit suicide, or was she murdered?
Maybe she was silenced because she was connected to the poisoning incident.
908 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 02:42:34.38 ID:69GrXxcy0
泣けた。猫猫には真相が既にわかったのだろう
壬氏の本当の身分にも気がついた？だから平民だ毒殺でとか言い出したのだろう
敵が大物すぎるので自分が死んでも真実はさらけ出してやるみたいな意思を感じた
That moved me. Maomao may already understand the truth.
Did she also realize Jinshi’s true status? Maybe that is why she said that, as a commoner, she wanted to be executed by poison.
I felt a determination to expose the truth even if the enemy was so powerful that it cost her life.
910 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 03:01:43.10 ID:7APeuwbO0
>>908
壬氏が偉い立場なのは元々じゃない？
>>908
Was it not already obvious that Jinshi held a very high position?
912 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 03:30:24.81 ID:Orrkp1pH0
>>910
明かしてるより上の身分って気付いたんでしょ
>>910
They mean she realized his status was even higher than what had been disclosed.
911 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 03:20:36.97 ID:250W0N/ad
塩を盛られて殺られたおっさんと下女？の死亡は繋がってるのかね？
死体に触れてはいけないはなんか感染症の危険とかそんなんだと思ったらまさかの理由で草
I wonder whether the official who was killed with all that salt and the death of the palace maid are connected.
When they said not to touch the body, I expected a risk of infection or something—not that reason, lol.
915 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 03:46:00.25 ID:Dy8UtUg50
まあ今後の仕込みなんだろ
伏線回
たしかにつまらなかった
I suppose this episode was setting things up for later.
It was an episode full of groundwork.
I did find it rather dull, though.
919 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 04:02:41.86 ID:Dy8UtUg50
人体を腑分けして薬にするまでは手を出してないんだな
宮廷ならたくさんの人体が手に入るだろうに
So she has not gone as far as dissecting human bodies to make medicine.
You would think the imperial court could provide access to plenty of bodies.
926 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 04:41:26.53 ID:8xVRP5Aj0
ジンシ様がそんなことする人じゃないって分かってても
あんな事を吐露する意味を考えている
日本だって目に見えない形で越えられない身分の壁ってのがあるからね
Even though she knows Jinshi is not the sort of person who would do that, she is thinking about why he would make such a confession.
Japan also has invisible class barriers that people cannot cross.
928 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 04:48:41.90 ID:QuNxGAEJ0
普通に面白かったんだけど
I thought it was perfectly interesting.
929 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 04:53:23.18 ID:vbqI8mnLa
壬氏の身分については、色々想像を巡らせた結果「帝のお手付き」という結論に達した場面があったね。
There was a scene where Maomao considered Jinshi’s status and concluded that he was the Emperor’s favorite.
931 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 05:33:46.58 ID:D87shbYU0
人体からとれる薬ってなんだ？
後宮ならプラセンタいっぱい取れそうだ
What medicines were made from the human body?
The rear palace would have plenty of placentas available.
933 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 05:44:50.06 ID:cNErwt3E0
>>931
へその緒とか有名だし、中国だったか胎児だったか赤子の死体が薬になるとか
>>931
Umbilical cords are a well-known example, and I have heard that in China, perhaps, fetuses or the bodies of infants were also used as medicine.
935 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 06:03:33.20 ID:1gebNWV00
糞みたいなシーン挟んだ以外はそこまで酷くは感じなかったかな
ただ毎回匂わせが多過ぎてわかりづらいことこの上ない
スッキリしない
Apart from that awful scene, I did not think it was quite that bad.
But every episode hints at so many things that it becomes extremely difficult to follow.
It does not feel satisfying.
936 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 06:07:32.75 ID:vbqI8mnLa
露骨な時間稼ぎは酷かったなw
次回以降でこれまでのモヤモヤを一気に解決させるための労力セーブと思いたいww
The obvious padding was rough, lol.
I want to believe they were saving effort so they can resolve all these lingering questions at once in the coming episodes.
938 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 06:09:57.68 ID:Dy8UtUg50
あの挿入歌の回想シーン？は伏線じゃなく予告だろな
中弛みの自覚があればこそだろ
That flashback sequence with the insert song felt less like a clue and more like a preview.
Perhaps they knew the episode was slowing down.
939 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 06:10:31.30 ID:y3Hn6A6k0
原作自体が思わせぶりで次まで読まないと結局わかりにくかったりあるから
アニメ化でまとめてから映像化してほしかったけど
TOHOじゃなぁ
むしろアニオリ入れたり複雑にしてる感まである
漫画版はどちらも途中までしか読んでない
The original work can also be deliberately suggestive and difficult to understand until you read the next part.
I hoped the anime would organize the material before adapting it, but if anything, the anime-original additions seem to make it more complicated.
I have only read part of each manga adaptation.
944 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 07:03:43.88 ID:U1cEAwEl0
俺はむしろ今回みたいな感じのが一番面白いけどな
I actually find episodes like this the most interesting.
947 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 07:10:15.31 ID:Npn4gfO1M
今回の話が実は重要なのに(´・ω・`)
文句言ってる人
来週の回見る前に再度見ていたほうがよいよ
This episode is actually important.
Anyone complaining should watch it again before next week’s episode.
951 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 07:30:59.66 ID:250W0N/ad
柘榴宮ていうとイケメン妃のいるとこか
イメージ的にはまともそうなとこだが何かしら闇があるのかね
The Garnet Pavilion is where that strikingly handsome consort lives, right?
It seems respectable, but I wonder whether it has some darkness of its own.
959 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:04:46.33 ID:HNEAOsqSd
まだ解決編来てないから覚えておこう
コナン君で言う組織編よ
The resolution has not arrived yet, so remember all of this.
It is like the story about the Organization in Conan.
961 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:27:33.14 ID:e57rACNw0
ちょっと見直してみたけど、
・刃物振り上げてるカット
・羅門？が女性を診てるカット以降
あたりはこれまでの話の回想じゃ無さそう
羅門のところは先週あったかと思って確認したけど違うぽい
I watched it again, and these shots do not appear to be flashbacks to anything we have already seen:
• someone raising a blade
• Luomen, perhaps, examining a woman and the shots after that
I thought the Luomen scene might have been in last week’s episode, but it seems it was not.
963 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:36:57.31 ID:2obBVGxp0
架空の国という設定だからしょうがないけど
ストレスとか糖尿というセリフに違和感
I know it is a fictional country, but words such as “stress” and “diabetes” still feel out of place.
964 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:37:37.95 ID:awSzmUmKd
>>963
日本の時代劇とかどう感じてるの？
>>963
How do you feel about Japanese period dramas?
966 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:44:56.87 ID:3ONtIo2j0
なんか毎回毒盛られて誰ぞ人死んでない？
後宮サツバツとしすぎだろｗ
Does someone get poisoned or die in every episode?
The rear palace is far too dangerous, lol.
978 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:01:28.50 ID:QwmF1U/d0
>>966
日本の大奥物でも、子供を孕んだライバルを堕胎させようと毒盛る陰謀は定番
大勢の女と権力が絡む所に陰謀はつきもの
>>966
Even in Japanese stories about the shogun’s inner chambers, plots to poison a pregnant rival and cause a miscarriage are standard.
Where many women and political power gather, intrigue follows.
967 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:48:12.15 ID:9xAPe7am0
後宮があるところなんて、どこ行ってもそんなもんだ
Any place with a rear palace would be like that.
968 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:50:07.59 ID:1iUSFkrt0
味覚障害のおっさんは後宮じゃないけどね
The man with the impaired sense of taste was not in the rear palace, though.
969 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:51:46.94 ID:vbqI8mnLa
先週は妓楼での事件だしw
なんだ、後宮は平和だなあ
And last week’s incident happened at a brothel, lol.
So the rear palace is peaceful after all.
972 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:55:13.03 ID:6sYnjtUD0
自殺したのってリーシュの毒見役の人?アレルギーの恐ろしさをしらずに嫌がらせで料理をすり替えた奴
Was the person who died by suicide Lishu’s food taster—the one who switched the dishes as harassment without understanding how dangerous allergies are?
975 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 08:58:14.40 ID:Npn4gfO1M
>>972
ちゃう
>>972
No.
977 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:00:46.82 ID:XsQ7c68A0
犯人が自殺したのかもしれんし殺されたのかもしれん
カモフラージュのために疑われそうな奴が殺されたのかもしれん
Maybe the culprit died by suicide, or maybe someone killed her.
Perhaps someone likely to be suspected was killed as a diversion.
983 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:22:38.76 ID:dfQpC+lP0
殺された人
生真面目で仕事熱心で人柄もいいのに
流行り病で妻子を亡くし
最後殺されるのは気の毒すぎる
The dead official was serious, hardworking, and apparently a good person.
He had already lost his wife and child to an epidemic, so being killed at the end is far too tragic.
985 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:30:12.85 ID:4nxiTIxa0
最近は1話で何らかの解決をしないとダメっていう人が多いのかねぇ
レイニー止めとか速攻で駄作扱いされちゃうんだろうか
Do people now require every episode to resolve something?
Would a cliffhanger like the famous “Rainy Stop” immediately be dismissed as bad today?
986 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:31:42.41 ID:qhtacpio0
酒の人あれで解決じゃないのか
Was the case involving the drinking official not already solved?
987 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:32:52.30 ID:dfQpC+lP0
猫猫は酒好きと
So Maomao likes alcohol.
989 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:33:39.12 ID:S7zc9xMC0
アップ時の虹彩の描き込みとかやたら美しかったのに作画云々言われるんか
The close-ups had beautifully detailed irises, yet people are still criticizing the animation?
992 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:36:12.37 ID:Ilvqe54a0
連作ミステリベースのアニメの場合1話でも見逃すともう付いてこれないから
コナンも金田一もエピソード毎の構成にして短編なら1話長編でも3～4話にしとる
「すべてはFになる」のアニメとか飽きられないようにするためか
3話ぐらいで核心に迫る過去映像出してきて謎解きもなにもあったもんじゃなかったし…
With an anime based on interconnected mysteries, missing even one episode can make it impossible to follow.
Conan and Kindaichi divide stories by case: one episode for a short case, or three to four for a long one.
The anime The Perfect Insider may have feared viewers would lose interest, because it showed past scenes approaching the core mystery around Episode 3, leaving little mystery to solve.
995 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:39:45.29 ID:xEoQ2/HNr
塩辛いのが全くわからないは流石にご都合じゃね
味覚障害にしても
Not noticing that much salt at all feels far too convenient, even with an impaired sense of taste.
996 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:40:50.65 ID:OZms24Ad0
伏線がたくさんあって全部遠投だからわかりにくいのが難だな
The difficulty is that there are many clues, and their payoffs come so much later that the story is hard to follow.
998 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:41:31.66 ID:dfQpC+lP0
別に楽しんでみてるけど
変な曲で回想みたいなところにはいったのは？？？となった
I am enjoying it, but when it suddenly entered that flashback-like sequence with the unusual song, I was confused.
1000 風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で
2023/12/03(日) 09:42:19.86 ID:S7zc9xMC0
あくまで下女の見聞録（薬屋のひとりごと）だから核心に届かないのは仕方がないだろう
It is ultimately a record of what a low-ranking serving girl observes—The Apothecary Diaries—so it makes sense that she cannot reach the heart of everything.
🔚 Overall Impressions
Episode 9 divided viewers more than the recent self-contained mysteries. Some found the slower, clue-heavy structure unsatisfying, while others considered it one of the series’ most important episodes and appreciated how it connected the garden-party poisoning, the dead palace maid, and the official’s unusual death.
Maomao’s request to be executed by poison became the emotional center of the discussion. Commenters debated what she had inferred about Jinshi’s position, why she spoke so bluntly about death, and how the scene revealed both her social awareness and her unusual outlook on life.
The insert-song montage also drew sharply different reactions. Some viewers found it confusing or overextended, while others noticed that it included images that were not ordinary flashbacks and urged people to remember them. Despite the debate, the detailed close-ups and the episode’s long-range mystery setup gave viewers plenty to analyze.
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